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Apple Magic Mouse oddities - eddieh - 03-14-2022
I’m not sure this is technically a bug or just confusing.
I’m on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, Wings3D v2.2.9, and using an Apple Magic Mouse 2.
In macOS my Magic Mouse is configured to use the secondary click. That just means that right click is enabled. On a Mac a right click is equivalent to control + mouse click. So even if I don’t have the secondary click configured I can sill perform a right click. When the secondary click is configured, control + mouse click is still interpreted as right click.
When using Wings3D with the default Mouse Buttons preferences set to Three, I can select and open the menu. The tweak menu works too by holding option + right click. I can’t start the camera, so the default preferences don’t work.
The logical next step is to set the Wings3D Mouse Buttons preference to Two. Now I can select, open the menu, and open the tweak menu. I can’t start the camera because Wings3D is expecting control + right click. That’s because control + click is sent as a right click and it opens the menu. There’s no distinction between control + left click and control + right click. Both are interpreted as a plain right click and open the menu.
The only way I can get “start camera” to work is by setting Mouse Buttons to One. It works, but it is confusing. For a long time I hesitated to try One, because I have a two button mouse for all intents and purposes. It just didn’t seem like the correct setting. Now that it's set to One, I still find option + left click a little awkward. My mind thinks it should be option + right click. I think that’s because right click still opens the menu and command + right click opens the tweak menu, but option + right click does not start the camera, instead it opens the menu.
I think it would be less confusing if I could set Mouse Buttons to Two and then map option + right click to start the camera, right click to show the menu, and command + right click to show the tweak menu.
RE: Apple Magic Mouse oddities - micheus - 03-15-2022
eddieh Wrote:The logical next step is to set the Wings3D Mouse Buttons preference to Two. Now I can select, open the menu, and open the tweak menu. I can’t start the camera because Wings3D is expecting control + right click. That’s because control + click is sent as a right click and it opens the menu.
Hi eddieh, I don't have access to a mac, but regards to the two buttons use I remember there is a note at help menu about it:
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To use mice with only one or two buttons, you must inform Wings of how many buttons your mouse has in the Edit|Preferences dialog.
Note that only the Nendo and Blender modes can be used with a two-button mouse. Only the Nendo mode can be used with an one-button mouse.Did you changed the camera mode or did you stay in Wings3D (default one)?
RE: Apple Magic Mouse oddities - eddieh - 03-15-2022
When I change the mouse buttons to two or one, Nendo gets autoselected, but I always double-check to ensure it is set to Nendo, because it is my preferred camera mode.
RE: Apple Magic Mouse oddities - oort - 03-16-2022
eddieh,
I have never used a Mac but in the past I was able to change what the buttons did in Windows. It was a long time ago that I used a two button mouse and I had to make sure that the 2nd button was defined as something other than the default setting. I cannot remember what it was. If a Mac will let you do that you could try playing with those settings. If it is not possible then never mind this suggestion...
oort
RE: Apple Magic Mouse oddities - tkbd - 03-17-2022
Hi,eddieh,
I tried to verify each operation with Magicmouse,and I got the same result as you explained.
I also couldn't use the camera except for one button mode.
(In MacOS Big-Sur , Wings3D v2.2.9 and MagicMouse(Bluetooth))
(But I always use 3-button mouse)
So...I found that one of solution for Middle button problem with MagicMouse.
It is the open source software that called "MiddleClick".
This software Emulate a scroll wheel click with three finger Click or Tap on MacBook trackpad and Magic Mouse
with macOS Big Sur11.5 support. But I don't know it support Catalina....
The Binary version can download from a following URL
https://github.com/artginzburg/MiddleClick-BigSur/releases/tag/2.5
How to install and setting
1. Download MiddleClick.zip and get MiddleClick.app
2. Change Privacy preferences on MacOS System before use the software.
Privacy preferences > Accessibility >Security and Privacy
Check checkbox of "MiddleClick.app" from the app list.
3. Run MiddleClick.app ,and icon appear in top menu bar.
4. Click the top menu bar icon of MiddleClick.app
5. You can button setting which triple tap triple click for MiddleClick.
What is TripleClick/tap?
It working as Middle mouse button click.
It is a feeling of pressing all the buttons on the left, right, and center of the mouse in same time.
Using tap or click with your index, middle and ring fingers on MagicMouse.
I recommend setting is triple CLICK MODE (The setting can change from top menu bar icon).
My Wings3D 2.2.9 Mouse Setting is "3 buttons" and "Wings3D"
I check it work fine with Wings3D.
It may take some time to get used to it.
I hope it helps you.
tkbd
RE: Apple Magic Mouse oddities - micheus - 03-17-2022
Thanks tkbd for take your time and try to help us with this issue.
RE: Apple Magic Mouse oddities - eddieh - 03-18-2022
Thanks tkbd! I will give that a try.
