Selecting backfaces?

[haroon]

Hi

How can I select back and front faces at the same time? I tried shift select rectangle but it does not seem to select back faces. Is there any way to do it (hopefully while in shaded mode)?

thanks

[maker]

If you just use a standard sel window (rectangle), it should. Shift + sel window, for some reason, doesn't -- only those faces completely covered by the rectangle -- not even side faces. (But, then, I'm not an expert. Wait a bit and one will answer you better )

Edit: You can use Control + Sel Win to deselect if there are many faces to deselect (just click on individual selected face to deselect, otherwise.)

[haroon]

If you just use a standard sel window (rectangle), it should. Shift + sel window, for some reason, doesn't -- only those faces completely covered by the rectangle -- not even side faces. (But, then, I'm not an expert. Wait a bit and one will answer you better

Hi

Well without the shift it is not possible to do rectangle selection inside a model. You need to drag from an empty space without the shift which is not useful for many cases.

[Fonte Boa]

Wings Marquee Select methods are the following ones:

1. Beginning to draw the marquee with cursor outside geometry:

a. just draw the marquee:
select all elements marquee crosses, front and back ones;

b. hold Shift, draw the marquee:
select all elements inside marquee, just the front ones.

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2. Beginning to draw the marquee with cursor over geometry:

a. hold Shift and draw a marquee:
select all elements inside marquee, just the front ones

b. hold Shift, begin draw a marquee, release Shift, end marquee drawing:
select all element marquee crosses, front and back ones

[haroon]

It can seems confuse at first try,
but the exactly Marquee Select method is the following ones:
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2. Beginning to draw the marquee with cursor overgeometry:

a. hold Shift and draw a marquee:
select all elements inside marquee, front and back ones

b. hold Shift, begin draw a marquee, release Shift, end marquee drawing:
select all element marquee crosses, included back ones

Fonte Boa,

Thanks for the reply

#2 option b works for me. I use the Maya navigation.

That was really tricky

[Fonte Boa]

Nice to know, haroon.

I didnt try the method i described above with all possible Camera modes (i am using 3ds max camera).

And, if Tweak mode is on, of course its combos can change this scheme.

[maker]

2b works for me too, in Blender camera mode. Really helpful to know

2a only selects front faces, regardless of whether view is shaded or wireframe, or if "show backfaces / show wireframe backfaces" is on.

[Fonte Boa]

<< 2a only selects front faces >>

You are right, maker: sorry for my mistake.

ps: i'm editing my original thread to correct this: thnks!


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So we can abbreviate the entire process:

1. Hold Shift and draw a marquee:
select just the front elements inside the marquee

2. Hold Shift, begin to draw a marquee, release Shift, end to draw the marquee:
select front and back elements the marquee crossed

[maker]

We should say thanks! What I've been doing till now is rotate (and rotate) the view till I could see the back faces. Or use select all, then deselect unnecessary with CTRL+drag. Or select touching edges and convert to face selection. Or tear my hair out

Also, thanks for all the wonderful tutors. Short and sweet. Even for a person like me who does not like video-tutors.